What I am about to say is my opinion only. Not only are alot of foamies to light to fly ourdoors well. Alot of them have way to much wing area to fly well in wind. They fly like hot air ballons anyways, then add alittle wind and you chase them all over the sky, or fly backwards dragging the tail of the plane all over. True outdoor foamies could use less wing area and still fly really well, I have proven this and about ready for release of them. I too fly were its always blowing 5 to 10 and alot of 10 to 15 winds. I was too in the need of an "outdoor" foamy. I got my first taste with shockflyers and they are too light also but the hook was set, I can't live life without a foamy anymore.