Hi Bob, Thanks for the kind words, Owen put on a great event for sure!..I'm still laughing about the toothbrush thing..<G> I try to keep all setups as simple as possible..there is no substitute for simple geometry....thats why I threw in the (engine settings) and then the throttle adjustments with the correct servo arm length and then the fine tuning of the curve in that order...temp, humidity, alt...etc. all are relative to throttle stick position in TR's and hovers...it can take as many as 20 flights to find that perfect setting that suites your flying style.....e-mail me at [email protected] and I'll be glad to help any way I can.............Thanks, Joey H.