My perception is that 3dfoamy are some of the best and state of the art designs out there (thats why I bought some), and that it's my flying that's the problem.

The Raven does fly superbly, and after 10 days of flying foam I had my first flight on a flat calm day with a light (900 Mah) battery. It is a pleasure to fly, and still does loads of things I don't know the name for. It's wild, extreme and loads of fun, so i've plenty to go at for now.

After all of this, it probably is my flying [:-]