I bought an apache trainer from richmond rc and was impressed when they shipped it with two large balsa sheets to protect the box. I still use them to protect the table when I build.The covering was really loose and I spent a couple of hours shrinking it before doing any assembly.The hardware they shipped was all junk except for the adjustable servo tray.You wouldn't believe what the wheels looked like.Overall,I like the model.I just had to do alot of extra steps to get the model flight ready.The vmax .46 engine has had no problems whatsoever although, after each flight I disassemble and clean the engine.The initial money I saved I had to spend on hardware so over all I wouldn't buy from them again because I went down to the local hobby store and bought an avistar for a hundred bucks and had it ready to fly in six hours.Don't worry be happy[8D]