pauluk2w, If I had found something like that a year ago, I would of never bought my Nexstar. That is a good deal. And Redrider, almost everyone I know that started with a 4 channel radio has sold it or given it away, including me. Wait, save some money, and get a 6 channel at least. There are some 60 size RTFs that come with 6 channel radios. Not computerized, but 6 channels. And once you get the radio, you will not have to buy anymore. And consider a package that comes with a sim of some sort. It is incredible the difference a lot of sim time makes.