they will hover but i dont feel they are too accurate.. Im glad i dont own any planes that fly like them.. I tweaked the yak. it snaps more than a cap 21. it always felt like it torqued to the left bad in a hover also on verticle lines. I almost have it to were it does all the moves in a more realistic way. (BTW does anyone know how to program flaperons with the G3 controller?) the ulimate flys like crap. my model ultimate dosent fly nothing like that. the E3D i tweaked and lightened and gave it more power to feel like an electric it flies great.

there was a guy i met while flying G3 online had a link to a site i got a H9 ultamate that flys good. It does fly a little floaty like the g2 does when you mod it to get 3d.. but my guess is they will only get better as people tweak them..

If you ever fly online Im " Lee in Va" on there