You have done well Don.. but why are you still scared of a little soldering ? You and Reg seem to spend more time making jigs than wheels .. perhaps thats why mine are a tad"squiggy" but my jigs are charcoal when finished If you want to try another excersise ..try drilling 10 holes each side of the hub and have the rear facing spoke and forward spacing spoke one length of wire in a V shape. Thats how I did the Jenny wheels. It will make your non soldered hub stronger and you wont have to "inter twine"the spokes over each other to hold them in place on the hub.... its also an interesting puzzle working out a sequence to fit them all in position .. either way ..look at the money you are saving making your own..correct diameter and width too