Thanx for the update. I have a few questions. Did you slave your ailerons or use 4 servo's. What prop are you using on your 180??? I thinking about going with a slimline smoke system. Anyway I read that some of the older kits had crappie covering and also what about this offset hinge problem? Did you have any problems or have these been resolved? Also with the Saito 180 what should I expect for take off and vertical performance. I have a dragon lady with a Saito 150 and it does well, dry weight right around 10 lbs, take off roll out is about 10 ft. with phenominal vertical. It won't hover but I'm not into 3D yet. What did yours weigh? Did you use a 24oz tank or is that too much? Well hope that isn't too much. If you can't tell I'm a little excited about this model and I have spring fever to boot. I just went through my dragon lady for her post winter tune up. Wow good thing I did, reciever and battery tray was broken and I couldn't see it because of the foam. It's not a good thing to have your RX pack come loose in flight!!