I could hover my 4*60 Mag 91 4c For as long as I wanted too at
about 8' up, I got into some trouble below that... But I always
pulled out of it.. The ground my mind and thumbs did not want to
work together, They always just wanted to meet:-(.. It also got
a few circuits in a K.E... I could not get it to flat spin..Harriers
was a no go for me also... But it's a Great Plane!!!