BBT, I have followed this thread closely and I have to agree with everyone else, OUTSTANDING! I do have a few questions I was wondering if you could answer for me ... I went to the link you posted and downloaded the PDF file of your plane, and after viewing it I was wondering what the lines on the bottom of the wing plans are for? I tried to figure it out, and after I slap my forhead when you give me the answer I will prove once again ... its the easiest things that you start losing at first HAHA! My second question is what would it take to get the full size plans so I can start cutting and building? I thought I would ask you before going to the local copy shop and have some younger person look at me with that face, you know the same one I had at their age. Anyway, once again outstanding plane and yes I agree on the fact its not what you always see. Thanks for future replies ...