CeeGee, No I start from normal. I put throttle on idle and slowly pull full up elevator until it stalls or nearly stalls and at the moment the front end drops is when I go to the inner corners with the sticks and then do as described above.
gjeffers is doing it exactly like I do only he's beginning with a dive spin to create speed without using the throttle. I do it that way too sometimes, but you lose alitude FAST so you have to be careful and make sure you get the flat spin going soon enough. This way is a "Blender" which is a cool looking move. The UCD do this stuff great.
Thanks,
Barry