then it would suggest that you've not recently inspected or assembled either brand.
Does a Seagull Arising Star or 2 month old Seagull Boomarang qualify ??

, or a Blackhorse Travel Air or a Blackhorse Tornado??
Any way, I still feel that VMar have moved on from their dark days. They have ditched the cotton wood for balsa and that is a great leap forward and cann't help but heal their cinderella past.