Well, I have helped him out as much asI can and all were asking for is a little help, not a 1000 or even 100 dollar plane or even electronics, just an old used still flying condition beginners plane, I guess nobody else has ever been helped out when moneys hard, ans also sorry SPICEDCRAB for the remark, however yours was quite rude too. but please, anyone willing to help, your kindness is definatly appreciated. I just feel bad for this kid because nobody helps him very often and he is allways willing to sit and hold drying parts or getting tools, he is a great helper when you need him, so we are trying to "say thank you" by trying to get him a plane. SORRY IF THIS POST MAKES ANYBODY ELSE MAD!!!