There are 4 issues I'd like to address.

First, if an employee in my business had so brazenly and irresponsibly offended even one customer of mine, he'd be terminated on the spot. Mr. Leseberg represents several Major vendors. I have personally communicated my dissatisfaction with 3 of them via telephone. Whether they drop him from sponsorship is up to them.

Second, any attempt by any person or organization to dilute what Mr. Leseberg did with excuses or by pointing fingers at others only serves to exacerbate the problem, both now and in the future. This hobby, or industry, must know when to draw a line and say "THIS is wrong". There is no grey area in this case. Since we all know that what Mr. Leseberg did was wrong, there needs to be a punishment for his misbehaviour. Like every other person in this world, improper behaviour begets unpleasant results. Children are spanked (at least they should be) and have privileges denied. I think that form of punishment is appropriate in this case, both literally and figuratively. Given the AMA's reaction thus far, I'm sure they are sizing up a Willow switch with Mr. Leseberg in mind. I'm also sure that Mr. McConville can become instantly fully informed of what went on by making two phone calls. At least two members of Team JR witnessed what was going on. He can also email me for my telephone number and I'd be happy to discuss what happened with him. It behooves Horizon Hobby and JR to be proactive in investigating accusations against any of their sponsored flyers or representatives, and in dealing with it quickly and efficiently.

Third, I've faced death several times, and gotten away with some pretty close calls unscathed. Death by Spinning 32" propellor is not on my agenda. Mr. Leseberg will not be welcome as a flyer by me anywhere I am flying until he publicly acknowledges his mistake and takes steps to fly in a more mature manner. There is NOTHING personal in this, it's just good common sense to ensure that the guy flying next to you values your life as much as his own. Everyone makes mistakes on a moment by moment basis. Willingly putting a lot of other people in mortal danger is not a mistake, it's an attitude problem. Mr. Leseberg needs to correct his attitude. It starts with acknowledging it, then taking steps to grow out of it. I'll repeat .there is NOTHING personal in this.

Fourth. This thread has beaten this issue to death. It's time for it to END!!! I am aware of at least 3 formal complaints issued to the AMA concerning this event, and it is now in their hands. I have been basically asked to allow the matter to rest, which I am now taking steps to do. This is one of those steps. Quite frankly, I was surprised that Red quoted my GSAL post to these forums. Since he did, it's encumbent upon me to address this matter in some way. I have done so. This matter is CLOSED, and I have nothing further to say on it. Please do not PM me or email me or ask me questions in these or any other forums concerning it. I will not reply.

Since "removing" myself from RCU a while back, I have maintained 5 distinct "personalities" here at RCU. I think I have posted less than 10 times total in the last year. I have little intention to post unless something as critical as this thread appears, or it concerns me personally, or if anyone has a question concerning a product I endorse (Such as BME, HiTec, Composite-Arf, JR or Fromeco) and usually those questions are well answered by others on these forums, so my input would probably be redundant. The politics, arguing, and butting of heads is not my intention on this or any other forum, and it grew wearisome in the past. I refuse to return to that sort of a relationship with the people in this hobby. I do not know whether the RCU admin will remove this post or this "personality" from the forums. I do not really care.

This subject, and this thread, are OVER. Please. [8D]

Kris Welter