The kyosho truggy lost its center diff, but he didnt feel like messing with it right away since he ran 8th scale as well. The P5 is a great motor, but i have a Collari in one of my buggies and that thing flat out FLIES! might wanna look into a B3/B7.... great engines... And you said the reason why i LOVE racing down here, the variety. Its very boring running or even watching a MT race made up mostly of 1 truck. We have 3-4 HB LS's here, but thats just because its the hot truck right now. Wait a few months and you'll see alot of HB LS's, Mugen, TTR and kyosho truggies... nothing can touch them, and with the right driver, these things WILL beat buggies lap times (those tires make a BIG difference) We were racing on a new layout so we were't yet pulling the best lap times, but once we all get used to it we're going to be pulling some crazy lap times.

Chris