flew it to day w/ the .25 was manageable made four box paterns cut back speed to feel out landing speed flew to close to 80 foot pine tree had to climb to get it plane suffered only minor damage i hand launched the sturdy bird ground conditions were bumpy. flew good need some landing advice ie paterns aproach line realative to my position knowing i need to land in to the wind. have exp. belly landing small elec + some basic simulator practice