thanks it helped alot, i finally got it to fly and it went pretty good but for a few things. Is there a trick to making sure the rudder and the tail flaps are at the right straightness i have tried the fine adjustments on my controler but think the fusalage might be warped a little. The plane when launched now always wants to go up at about a 40 degree angle so i adjust it so it doesn't stall so i get a dipping effect and not much hieght due to that. so is there a way to make sure it is striaght with the rest of the plane so that it doesn't want to always go up wards. And it always wants to turn right. Not sure if the plane is warped or not with out eyeballing it is there a sure fire way to tell if it is. i got a good 5 min flight out of it today and was pretty happy, it was nice to know all my crashes are paying off . any help that you guys can give me about my problems is always appreciated.