i purchased a arrow trainer 2 months ago put it togeather nice looking plane got impaitent waiting for spring ie club/ instructor so I bought a sturdy birdy & os fx .25 had a laser hitec 4 ch from my electric plane i fooled around w last summer put it all togeather and out to a remote farm field took a deep breath and hand launched it flew great thanx to a trip to hobby shop for a pre flight insp. and tip's on eng. tuneing ive logged only 5 flights 2 broken props & a spinner but it's worth it trying to be patient take it slow have my ama going to get into club before arrow goes up this summer till then the sturdy bird seems like a step in the right direction.