Thats fine Mike, I joined the AMA lastnight so I can fly with you guys, but im not sure if I can make it to PA saturday, hopefully I can.

Doug, I checked out the midstar, do you know anything about it? easy to build/fly etc.. I also looked at the 4* 60, but when the time comes to buy a 2nd plane I think it will be the midstar. Im going to build this other trainer for Jen cause she wants to start flying.