The 60 size trainers mentioned are good and have lots of parts to keep you busy for a while. Its great that you want a kit for your first plane instead of an ARF. When its finished you will know how its built, whats under the covering, and how to adjust the linkages. The knowledge gained makes it far easier when you go on to other planes. 2nd type sport plane kits or ARFs often don't have a lot of instructions because it is assumed that you learned basic building skills from building your trainer. The new guys that start out with arfs usually need help when they buy a sport kit after they solo. [8D]