Reading the above posts I would have to throw my vote in for the Sig 4 star .60 kit. Its not hard to build, it has a good size wing which makes it easy to see, it flys well, floats like a trainer and also lands like one. It is faster with the throttle opened up and responds quicker but keep the throttle low and I don't see why you can't learn on one with a budddy box. It also handles the wind a bit better. [8D]