My thoughts on some of the planes. 4* 60, way too floaty for a second plane! Could be used as a 60 size trainer due to its extremely slow landing speed if an instructor is paying half attention. Tiger 60, great choice! Flys with a wide speed range and has a more positive landing approach than the 4*. Astro Hog, plane flys nice but has a heavier feel to it on the sticks compared to the first 2. Its also a builders type kit, comes with big square blocks of balsa. Anything that doesn't look like a part of the plane you sand, carve, slice, chip, or chew away until the plane shape emerges!