ORIGINAL: ksechler
Ken
If you use the "push" of elevator then the wing is doing the work.
The only way you can turn the aircraft without using the lift provided by the wing is if you use a bunch of rudder to yaw the thing around. Then you're using the "lift" provided by the fuselage. F=ma.
Yep, that was my point exactly. It isn't "always" necessary, technically, to use the wings to produce the "turn". In a rudder turn the tail section is "yawed" to change direction. The majority of lift is still provided by the original forces, wing and fuse, however in this instance the turn has occured by the yaw of the tail which was produced by the rudder movement.
BeePee is correct, in a coordinated turn, my point was only that there is another way which does not use the wing, you know, for arguments sake.
Just trying to show all avenues, you know, that WW3 thing.
Ken