Thanks buddy!! Thats the info i was exactly after!! I've had excellent info from everyone so far, that just had the little bits i wanted.. i wasn't going to go passed the 120 size two stroke as i think thats just way to much power, cos as you mentioned, realistically i think it should be a big 90 size plane rather than a small 120. I have narrowed my choices down to the TT120, Magnum 120 4 stroke and the OS 108. What do you think my best option from those three is? The prices are about $370 for the magnum, $400 for the TT120 and about $500 for the OS here in aus. I don't want the plane to be too quick on low speed flying, as hot landings are tricky at our airfield because of the lack of approach space to get it right. Thanks james.