Thanks for the replies guys! Extremely helpful.. looks like the Magnum 120 is a good option then!! I am just worried about making the wrong decision thats all.. but i think for what i am after the 4c will be the right option. I was glad to hear that the Magnum is an okay engine, and was more impressed when i saw it in store, it looks alot better than i expected. So you think it will have near unlimited verticle?! Thats what i want!