Steve I agree with you.All rcers are of the same thread.Please do read the start of the thread.NOTHING against jim, he is a GREAT attribute to our hobby.I always give compliments when they are due.Will walk a 100 miles to give it.Such as why I started with sig.Things do get out of contex over the internet.NEVER said,THIS is best,THIS is what I beleive you should do.Only wanted to get the point across that some kits are easy to build and sometimes take less time than a arf.THATS ONLY MY OPINION NOT FACT!!!WHY LESS TIME!Because if you learn or at least try to build they COULD be more durable.Last longer. Tell me it is not true guys a new flyer is not deemed to fly a arf.Never has a chance any more.Please,when you open up model airplane news,tell me what you see!When was the last time they reveiwed a kit?MFG supports where the money is.Gotta survive.Just think kits should not be wiped off the face of the earth.Choice IS GOOD!Will say a prayer tonight for that sick young man with a bad heart and his family. KELLDOG