other then me and a friend of mine,no one fly's these dinosaurs any more,i bet its been 10yrs. since i seen a df at the local field! last yr. i flew a starfire,and my bud had a bp regal eagle,i started this in the fall and he's doing a jhh f-86,i have too admit i'm losing interest,too much crap too worry about!+i do'nt like all the shaking going on! these things shake rattle and roll! but their still a blast!!! i was going to try and convert it to edf,but by the time i spend the$$$ for lith batts and edf unit,bl motor,i'd be better off putting it torwards a turbine!yeah right! maybe in a few years when the $ comes down!