Do you own a big gasser? I doubt it but if you do check what you have in it. 3500-8000 at least. How's that not the same? Go back in your hole. LOL. And half the people at my field have them..... Maybe we should start a post in the imac forum about why they don't fly pattern. I bet it has nothing to do with money and the fact that you think new designs are ugly. I don't understand that. I think you are stuck in the past and that's fine. We all have our thing. I love the looks of my curare and also my newer stuff. I think I will find the appropriate forum for that question and post. This has me interested in the responses.
And I wasn't saying that the cheap plane with a supertiger would be winner because it certainly would not, but I bet if in the right hands it would do pretty well. I'm just trying to help woops out . I think as a (own design) starter plane I would go with a 2 meter size. And you can get the price down if you don't want the best stuff. That's all I'm saying here.. As that was a few issues that were brought up in this thread.

People, if you are intersted in getting back into or getting into pattern, there are alternatives to the 2 meter stuff in the 90 size that are priced well. Contact me if you want. I'll try to help you. And if you just want to fly sportsman class, fly whatever plane you have that's capable of the manuvers. We're all interested in pattern growing again into what it was some time ago..

Krishlan