I just noticed that it seems not too many control liners posting on here. Is it because Leonard has this site in his listing on the SSWF. Anyway I beleive there are more CL'rs out there afraid to speak up. I do have a flying friend that says he does not go to any of the forums as it is a waste of time. But, I like the ideas and pictures that show up. Thanks to Leonard, he posted the Jumbo pictures I sent him. Anyway hope that young person gets that PT-19 flying. If only he had help I would suggest a larger plane, like ARF Flite Streak with OS LA-25. Enough rambling, DOC Holliday