Well I have to thank you for the information again. Of course I have been in love with helicopters my whole life, and will never be able to fly a real one, so RC it is. I do have some knowledge of the mechanics of certain helicopters, getting to fly in Huey's and two different Coast Gaurd ones. I spent some time, when there was time, talking to the pilots and crew chief's. It's hard not to just buy one and fly it, but I'm taking the advice of getting a SIM and radio first, which brings up another question on the radio. I have looked at all three that you had listed, and see that some kits come with the servos and some do not. My understanding is that I should buy one with the servos, but do not know how many.