You guys seem to think you need a PF solution...its not a PF solution you need. You need to fix your perception that the PF is the only one capable of ruining RC flight. Gow, you've never said once that people exist in other aspects of that hobby that can ruin it. You say good things about PF's sometimes, but you always say there the only ones who can ruin it. Im not worried about you guys because a lot of you will never make the decision about this anyway...just talk and talk....and talk...and thats all it will ever be for you guys..