Thanks for all of the info. But I think I am going to get the Wild Stick. The trainer that I have is a PT-40 which has been a great trainer. I think the the u can do 3d will maybe be my 3rd. In the mean time I think that I will take richohealey's advice and see how far I can get the throws on the trainer to go and fly it a little more until the wild stick is ready.

Graham