Engine is already boxed up. But as soon as the starter motor engaged, the RPM's would go from 0 to 60 something thousand. Every single time. As far as magnets go, etc. I've bought and owned somewhere close to 10 turbines in the last three years, currently own four. I don't own the Jet Joe engine I ran, it belongs to Luis of this thread. Sent to me to run and provide an opinion. Anyway, in all my turbine experiance, the one thing I've learned is to demand that the engine run as it was advertised to be. While a manufacturer has every right to expect that I will follow written directions and that I am someone knowledgeable of how a turbine engine operates, they do not have the right to expect that I am a "technician" or someone who would be able to diagnose why an engine is not performing as it should.

I'm not an attorney, but have employed attorneys and hired them over the years and spent a little time in the courtrooms. In all that time what I have learned is that the bottom line is "What's reasonable" or reasonable to expect. I have every right to stick a Jet Joe engine new from box and stick it inside a BVM Bandit and expect that the engine will work fine and not blow my airplane up.

When I lost my Euro to a 160 siezing in flight, I was not happy, unfortunately if any of us holds the manufactuers feet to the fire, the end result could be the manufacturers pulling out and then what?

Anyway, that's my position on the whole thing, I just feel like I have a reasonable expectation that if you're gonna sell this stuff, it should work with very little input from the operator. Factory settings should work. Thank goodness for warranties and manufactueres standing by them........