Gotta say go for the ultimate. It was my first aileron plane but I picked it up quick. It's taken a few crashes and came back for more.I did lose the top wing in a dive but I think that was my fault. I did it again recently after I fixed it and I think it's done for. I've already got a new Ultimate since it's a tough nice little bird and was only 50 bucks. I think the Tensor is more for indoor flying.