Thanks for the info, Im still learning as I go.. so would it help me to learn with collective pitch? or is it better to learn with fixed pitch? Im really ready to get going so I have been shopping around on some sites for new heli's and used ones as well. Im not goint to fly too ewarly but I really want to have one to start looking ver and trying to figure out. Is there a good site that sells used heli's that has trustable people?