JohnG

I appreciate your sentiment but this is what I have gleaned. I doubt there is official substantian (is that how you spell it?). I am happy to believe the sources I have been told by, but can't substantiate it further and I appreciate that from your view. If anyone can I would be pleased to hear either way....

But the original question did not solely refer to the big Buff but to all his large aircraft, and the Victor certainly is a large airframe and did a lot of the rounds. Even I saw it fly 4 times!!! It was the pedigree and capabilities that were in question, so the Buff is not the only airframe in the equation.

Gazzer