My point is not about a smaller plane than a typical .40 sized trainer, it is about one that weighs much less, takes less time to build, less money,easier to repair and still responds sluggishly to control commands. I'm talking about a 6 foot span glider as one example of such a plane. I was soloed by the hobby shop owner on one of these in a half hour after he got it trimmed out, showed me a few things and was confident that I could land it. I learned 80% of what I needed to know about controlling a model, never crashed it and finally sold it to a friend so he could learn to fly. 2 Slow, I'll bet you're shooting down something that you've never tried. It is a shame to see as many young guys show up at the field [as I have] with their 6 pound .40 ARF trainers, shortly after being soloed, only to go home with a garbage can liner full of junk. Many of these guys never return. The guys who learn on gliders usually have much better luck. There is always time later to move on to the heavy, more powerful trainer as a second plane. One more thing, 2 Slow, grow up a little, maybe the ARMY would do you some good?