Well- I suppose some topics never change! (I been away awhile)

I too am an APC believer, but Fly-Boy Dave is a Jedi master compared to me anyway and he likes MA props.! I have seen the performance of his MA's and it is impressive- and I am sure if you asked him about my Patriot/Jett-50 (APC 9x9) performance he would agree that it was satisfactory

To each his/her own--- My Whiplash flew quite well with a MA prop. recommended by Dave, and they are hard to break (I know, I have tried)

Cheers!