I wanted something that would 3D AND do some basic pattern stuff - at age 57 i wanted the flying qualities kinda mild...not too wild - decided to try a used Ucando 60 - after close to 30 flights, i think it's a keeper!..........(short vid - harrier rolls, torque roll, outside knife edge circle) - I think I'll keep my day job...

http://rcfunflyers.com/ucando%205-24-05.wmv