I couldn't agree more with on this one. I have been building kits since the 50's and that's all I have in my shop, ah there's an OOPS here!!!!!!! I do have a Hanger 9 Ultra Stick 40 ARF, but only because I got it in a trade, and it wasn't available in kit form. I find it very relaxing to go to the shop, put some tunes on and lay the wood out and over a period of time see an airplane appear. Those in the hobby that do nothing but ARF's I feel are really missing out on one of the better parts of this hobby.