I agree...I have a Hangar 9 Ultra Stick 60 with a OS .61 and I think it might be a little much for someone to learn on, especially with the zero dihedrahl (sp?) wing. I'd just get a avistar or alpha 40 or something else for a trainer instead of a flat-bottom trainer...easy flying and once you throw the rates up to 140% travel and put a .46 in a avistar, I can make it do as much as a u-can-do-3d .60, including hovers (really tricky with a trainer), knife edges, reverse immelmans, tight cuban 8's, etc...its funny because the people at the club go like, "You know, a trainer ain't made to do that." And I respond, "Mine is" . My stick has been a shelf queen for nearly 3 months because partly it won't fit in my dad's truck with the wing on so it takes too long to pack...plus it only has like 5 flights on it and I'd rather break my avistar than my stick.

So ya, in conclusion, as others have said sticks don't make good trainers...they don't have self-leveling capabilities, and might be too aerobatic (the H9 Ultra Sticks have fully symetrical airfoils) for someone new to the hobby.

Sorry for the essay like post (gotta stop listening to my English teacher )
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