Jack r - I would go for the Fliton. If you really want to practice 3D I think it's a better plane. The ailerons are very large and they extend to within an inch of the fuse - this give you the most control from just the wash of the prop - great for harier etc.

Spacewalker - I'm a tad dissapointed in the knife edge flight - I need to keep the speed up quite a bit to go accross the field without loosing altitude. It's not a profile in this respect. It has a very large rudder - so that's not the issue. I think you could get it to KE loop if you entered it at a good clip, or had the saito 100 on there. Maybe a faster prop set up???

But I can't imagine anyone being dissapointed flying this plane. ( i sound like an ad...LOL)