Yeah I found that site too, but didnt put the picture thing together,,I have contacted the seller and he has answered my emails so far,, didnt catch the zero feedback until after I "won" , so I'll check it out and let you guys know what it looks like,, it was $41 plus $20 s&h so for $61 unless its really trash,,I'll come out ok I think....it is also a drop shipped item ,..Rog,,and as for my lhs,,one is more an art/craft store, the other is an older gentleman who opens his store pretty much when he feels like it, and I work at night so that doesnt work out for me very well and the other was only into cars and fads and went belly up after about 2 years...Rog