DrDeath, I understand land is hard to find. I live 18 miles west of chicago and land is getting gobbled up with unbelievable speed, on my street there are 5 houses this year bought by builders just to be flattened for high end housing, but forest preserve land does exist is all areas of the country and it is revenue creating land when a small chunk is used for RC flying Vs using the same land for just nature trails where people pay nothing to use it. around here 4 outa 5 flying sites are on preserve land only two sites i know of are club owned or leased. Maybe other forest preserves don't know how much revenue they could generate on a small piece of their land[sm=greedy.gif]