The Midwest trainers have taught many many new people and still do a great job. Lately I like to see new students use the Aerobat as it will fly just like the Aerostar but at the same time it can be set up more advanced without having to make any modifications, most have already been made. If you want to see some good run downs of trainers check out the AMA web sight (masportaviator.com ) and click into the kit reviews. ENJOY!!!! RED