Hey guys, read what he said...

Hes at least 60 miles from a trainer and is having problems working out a good time to meet with them...

I hate this attitude here, thats the answer everyone gives to every question in the beginners forum...

It's obvious that hes trying to do it right, but in the meantime, he wants to have fun, there is no fault in that...hes going to break things, ok.

everyone sais that if you learn and crash, you will quit and it wil taint your outlook and make the sport look bad in your eyes and those of others...but it that was the case, the hobby would never have taken off...crashing pretty much makes everyone (including this gentleman apparently) want to try again...

now for the helpfull part...i know this sounds weird...but explain how you threwn the plane, and what you did with the sticks after the toss....

With my stryker (first flights today) i found that you throw with a little (5-10degrees) up angle...and gently (too hard it stalls), and just a little (i find setting the trim up all the way is enough) of up elevator..and when you launch it, let it glide down close the the grond before pulling up...it seems the most likely problem you had was pulling up too soon which since you dont have enough speed, results in a dive..

also...have someone else throw it from you at least for now...practice one of those big foam planes you buy from wal-mart for 5 bux...its about the same throw....anywho, im no pro, so thats all i got....but i think its more helpful than the others here...