Hi Red.
Now that's interesting. No insult taken, just good input.
To tell you the truth, I never tried to do a 'self recovery' with the Aerobat, basically because it is not supposed to be a 'trainer' as such. But, I can see how it could be.. I do know it will do things that the trainer will not

, plus it is a 'tad' faster. I had to prop mine down a bit because it scared me with it's flight speed (thus slower with the proper propellor, it does slow down and fly easier). That was when I first put it in the air. I now have a lot of fun with it doing all sorts of things, even things that no-one can describe

like perhaps a stall turn that got turned around and resulted in a couple of spins while recovering.. ha.. ("always do that stuff two mistakes high", as I can hear my instructor saying).
Now that you have my interest, I will play with that this weekend.
I also fly the Tiger 60 which flys slower than the Aerobat but is really a capable yet easy to fly plane. (note, above discussion about trainers and second planes, the Tiger 60 is definitely a fun flying airplane because it is very forgiving and, at the same time, is capable).
Anyway, thanks for the input. I guess I got into the 'this ain't a trainer' mode with the Aerobat that I simply never treated it as one (caution flying vs. agressive I guess).
Dick.