hey kanga, WOW I must have been under that rock for longer than I had thought, just spent an hour or so looking through a million posts about the company VMAR products...... hard to gauge appropriately, seems like the Old stuff was indeed terrible by 60-70 percent of the opinions, allso sounds like the company has gone into better woods since then.... sounds like the covering hasn't changed much... Oh well, I will have to due more due dilligence for the next time..... who knows maby I might just get me one of them cherry planes that 30-40 percent or so speak highly of...... hahahahahah looks like a crap shoot either way......... Captain Crash...