yea Ron, Trona is a blink away from nowhere, hard to see if im not out there to wave ya down, i had to make a trip to palm springs today and stopped by rabbit dry lake where the cirkus crew was to be hucking em today and got out there and the wind was blowing so hard my sweetie wouldnt let me take her , and i mean her(i have a full size BLAZER) mimivan out on the dry lake in the dust and dirt, soooo i didnt see no hucking, would have been great though.