I agree with fastsky the tiger 40 or 60 or 4* 40 or 60 would make great 2nd planes I went with a tiger 2, 40 size with a Saito 91 for my second plane. Just don't make it the same color on top and bottom <grinning>. I even think one could use either of these planes as a first plane as long as they have an instructor with a buddy box, as both of these have a lot of trainer like qualities IE exelent slow flight qualities and IMHO land better than most trainers. I still bounce my LT-40 on about 3 out of 10 landings although I have not flown it in about 7 or 8 months. I land my tiger 2 and my new tiger 60 as if on glass every time. Well almost. Got to learn how to make those little smiley faces work in my reply/post.